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RE: FCA y Renault - Jaymz - 03-06-2019
¿Guiño a FCA en el vídeo de presentación del Twingo o casualidad al ser todas las unidades matriculadas en Italia y haber sido grabado en dicho país?
Piensa mal y acertarás dicen.
RE: FCA y Renault - Clasicdani - 03-06-2019
(02-06-2019, 20:20)IST escribió: Fiat se baja los pantalones y propone nuevos términos para la alianza:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-renault-m-a-fiat-chrysler-exclusive/exclusive-fca-discusses-improved-renault-merger-bid-to-win-french-backing-idUSKCN1T30O2
Ahora ofrecen a Renault que la nueva empresa resultante de la fusión tenga la sede fiscal en Francia (y no en Holanda como inicialmente se planteó, que es como está constituida Fiat-Chrysler) y un asiento exclusivo para un representante del gobierno francés en la junta directiva.
Miles de taliAlfas llorando fuertemente ahora mismo.
FCA y Renault - JuanFran - 04-06-2019
Voy comprando rombo para ponerlo en el volante.
Enviado desde mi SM-G930F mediante Tapatalk
RE: FCA y Renault - DILINGER - 04-06-2019
Tiene pinta de que van a llegar a buen puerto.
RE: FCA y Renault - Orhi - 04-06-2019
¿Y el cuore? ¿Es que nadie está pensando en el cuore?
No sé a donde vamos a llegar en la automoción, ya me veo algún Maserati con mandos de clima de Dacia Duster.
RE: FCA y Renault - Phoenixgris - 04-06-2019
(04-06-2019, 19:34)Orhi escribió: ¿Y el cuore? ¿Es que nadie está pensando en el cuore?
No sé a donde vamos a llegar en la automoción, ya me veo algún Maserati con mandos de clima de Dacia Duster.
Sería un... Dacierati?
Badum Tsss!
RE: FCA y Renault - Orhi - 04-06-2019
(04-06-2019, 19:46)Phoenixgris escribió: Sería un... Dacierati?
Badum Tsss!
Primo hermano de Alfa Romboeo
RE: FCA y Renault - Zhio - 06-06-2019
Se rompió, FCA retira la propuesta de acuerdo.
Renault comunicó a las 0.30 que no habían decidido aun que necesitaban seguir evaluando, el gobierno francés seguía con trabas y supeditaba todo al Ok de Nissan.
A la 1 FCA retiraba la propuesta de fusión.
RE: FCA y Renault - Jaymz - 06-06-2019
RE: FCA y Renault - Clasicdani - 06-06-2019
Se pone interesante la temporada de Pasión de Fabricantes
RE: FCA y Renault - Jaymz - 06-06-2019
(06-06-2019, 10:11)Clasicdani escribió: Se pone interesante la temporada de Pasión de Fabricantes
RE: FCA y Renault - JuanFran - 06-06-2019
(06-06-2019, 09:46)Zhio escribió: Se rompió, FCA retira la propuesta de acuerdo.
Renault comunicó a las 0.30 que no habían decidido aun que necesitaban seguir evaluando, el gobierno francés seguía con trabas y supeditaba todo al Ok de Nissan.
A la 1 FCA retiraba la propuesta de fusión.
Siendo por esto, lo veo bien.
Hasta que no se quite del medio el gobierno francés esa compañía no va a cambiar...
RE: FCA y Renault - grinch - 06-06-2019
Y nosotros que soñábamos con un vive le cuore...
RE: FCA y Renault - R19tsdriver - 06-06-2019
(06-06-2019, 10:11)Clasicdani escribió: Se pone interesante la temporada de Pasión de Fabricantes
Quien se llevará a Fiat al agua? Trrrr..
RE: FCA y Renault - R19tsdriver - 06-06-2019
(06-06-2019, 10:19)grinch escribió: Y nosotros que soñábamos con un vive le cuore...
Yo ya estaba mentalizado.
RE: FCA y Renault - pikolotk - 06-06-2019
Y si lo de retirar la propuesta es tan solo una estrategia para presionar y acelerar el acuerdo?
RE: FCA y Renault - Zhio - 06-06-2019
(06-06-2019, 11:38)pikolotk escribió: Y si lo de retirar la propuesta es tan solo una estrategia para presionar y acelerar el acuerdo?
Podría ser... es una forma de decir "no mareeis más".
https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/why-fiat-chrysler-walked-away-renault-merger-deal?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
As Renault board members met on Wednesday evening to discuss a merger offer from Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, it appeared that Renault Chairman Jean-Dominique Senard, FCA Chairman John Elkann and representatives of the French government had ironed out most of their differences.
Then FCA abruptly walked away.
Fiat Chrysler blamed French politics. In a statement, it said: "It has become clear that the political conditions in France do not currently exist for such a combination to proceed successfully."
France's finance minister, Bruno Le Maire, said on Thursday that the government, which has a 15 percent stake in Renault, had not been prepared to back a deal that was not supported by Renault's alliance partner Nissan.
Nissan had signaled that its representatives on the board would abstain. During the board meeting, French government representatives sought to persuade Nissan to endorse the deal. The meeting was held up three times for consultations, people familiar with the events told Reuters.
When it came to a vote, the Nissan representatives abstained, the leftist CGT union voted against, and all other directors voted for it. When it was the French state representatives' turn to vote, they insisted that the vote be postponed.
Renault's Senard requested that Fiat Chrysler grant a delay. Instead, FCA quickly rejected the request, a person familiar with the events said.
Renault said in a statement that the board was "unable to take a decision due to the request expressed by the representatives of the French State to postpone the vote."
France's four conditions
France's Le Maire said on Thursday that an agreement had been reached on three of the four conditions. "What remained to be obtained was the explicit support of Nissan," he said in a statement.
France's four conditions were: respecting Renault's existing alliance with Nissan; keeping jobs in France; forming a balanced corporate governance structure between Renault and FCA; ensuring the new company commit to developing electric batteries along with Germany.
Questioned by reporters outside his home in Tokyo just hours after the collapse of the deal, Nissan CEO Hiroto Saikawa said he had not heard anything official and repeatedly declined to comment.
Nissan doubts
Nissan had earlier indicated that a full merger between Renault and FCA would significantly alter the structure of Nissan's cross-shareholding alliance with Renault and require a fundamental review of their relationship.
The opposition from Nissan representatives raised doubts about the Japanese automaker's commitment to preserving the alliance if the merger were to proceed.
In withdrawing the merger offer, FCA's Elkann might have been following the mantra of the automaker's late CEO, Sergio Marchionne, who warned that it is also crucial to end talks without the right conditions. "It's as important to walk away from the table as it is to sit down," Marchionne told Bloomberg in a joint 2014 interview with Elkann at FCA's test track of Balocco in northern Italy.
Fiat Chrysler had become increasingly aware of the pitfalls of pursuing a Renault merger without its larger alliance partner's buy-in. "Nissan needs to be in the loop," an FCA source told Reuters shortly before the deal fell apart.
Bloomberg and Reuters contributed to this report
RE: FCA y Renault - pptrrx - 06-06-2019
(06-06-2019, 10:11)Clasicdani escribió: Se pone interesante la temporada de Pasión de Fabricantes
RE: FCA y Renault - fabiotasa2 - 06-06-2019
(06-06-2019, 10:11)Clasicdani escribió: Se pone interesante la temporada de Pasión de Fabricantes
